The past few weeks have made it clear; the Irish people does not want to allow sex with minors, be it Church-originated or an emanation of Dublin's muesli belt. This is particularly the case for – ahem - “man/boy love”
Until the mid-1990's, the status quo ante was that there were draconian laws on the books, dating from the Victorian era, which were never enforced. While that is unacceptable, it is doubtful that the present dispensation is any better.
Currently, an “attractive, older man” can wine and dine a boy from the wilds of western Ireland for his 17th birthday before initiating him into a lifestyle that nature most certainly did not intend. The older man can also propose civil union and - if Katherine Zappone gets her way - marriage, regardless of what the boy's bewildered parents want.
The fact remains that what takes place in that scenario is state-sponsored rape., and the older man should be locked up for a sentence approaching that of murder. As for the 17-year-old, there is much propaganda out there telling him he is just tuning into his natural impulses. In the past, he might have become a priest or brother and continued the cycle of hate and dominance/submission on younger men. Now he is told he is something called “gay” and commits to a Stockholm syndrome existence
The facts remain, that even in “liberal” societies, older gay men suffer disproportionately from depression;
New data on lesbian, gay and bisexual mental health
The “gay lifestyle” is a promiscuous one, with sites like grindr.com ensuring the rest of us will be paying an aids bill for generations. When youth has fled, the lack of the civilizing influence of women becomes a terrible burden.
What this is fundamentally about is the attempt to create a political force from the “gay” population – which is in the natural state restricted to people with a chromosomal/hormonal problem for which they are decidedly not to blame. Alternatively put, look how far the Irish Green party on foot of its civil unions bill – and I am willing to grant that the 1.8% who voted for them included every “gay” person in the country.
For the record, the true prevalence of homosexuality is perhaps 1% with - according to Nate Silver - perhaps 4% engaging in recreational same-sex coupling; genes determine the neural basis of sex, so "intersex" minus a genetic component should be treated as mental illness.Finally, it would be great if gay men stopped approaching straight men in normal bars.Given S, Fry's "marriage" to man 30 years his junior it is not a stretch to imagine a gay seduction of a 17-year-old, a rushed marriage after elopement, and the Free state granting inheritance rights. As for Sinn Fein, it will be compulsory singing of "god save our glorious Queens" ar scoil gach maidin
PS (21 u Bealtaine 2015) Referendum tomorrow - the "yes" side has EVERY political party, many semi-states like the IDA, and unions on their side. Yet it is likely to be close, with a "No" vote so hard core in areas like Clare that it is physically unsafe even for seasoned pols like Pat Breen to canvasss there - so he now sticks to the Malls
What went wrong? First of all, it will still probably pass. Yet it is interesting to note what are effectively soft gay porn posters of attractive same sex young people making love on Ireland's streets, thus promoting homosexuality as an attractive lifestyle choice. Likewise, using an ugly transvestite modeled on the early Eddy Izzard as far back as early 2014 to launch the campaign showed a degree of confidence in the final result that has been complemented by both Senator Norris and President McAleese breaking the law this week.
In short, flushed with confidence, the "yes" side may have overplayed its hand.In either case, the critical issue of surrogacy has been kicked down the road. This leads to the consideration that conception may be initiated by a gay man masturbating with gay porn in a sperm bank. That sperm is then applied to eggs paid for by a donor, who will often suffer cancer as a result. John Edwards' wife died because of such fertility treatment. Then another woman must be paid to carry the child
While humanity has used many styles of child-begetting, spraying sperm over eggs is pre-mammalian, and is to this day used by fish. It is fascinating that a system of reproduction discarded by mammals, the cutting-edge of evolution, is being hailed as "progressive"
PPS 25u Bealtaine Remarkably, the poll precisely reflected a canvass on p.ie a few weeks ago; what we learned is that p.ie is more representative than we thought
The more interesting thing is the split with FF. Avril Power's resignation allowed Mattie M finally to break rank and follow McGuinness et al. So there is now an anti-liberal faction within FF. What might save Martin is the fact that Renua gifted him the bye-election
PPPS It gets better - it turns out that they got the wording wrong. The wording people voted on emphasised that "beirt" can enter into marriage. An assumption was made that "beirt" refers only to two people. Many of us knew from conversations with native speakers that was wrong;
http://www.rte.ie/news/nuacht/2015/0507/699390-reifreann/
So linguistics will be the acid test. That discipline accepted the practise of spoken language as critical some time ago for its definition. so, even apart from foclóir Uí Dhónaill (the dictionary) correctly insisting that "beirt" can refer to things, we have a corpus from Donegal saying that two female or male sheep can now get married;
- beirt chaorach (Teileann, Co Dhún na nGall)
The state response has been that they redefined an official version of the Irish language in 1958 in which this is not possible. In that case, there was a coup in 1958 and we need to reverse its effects
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